Joey Bada$$ reigns as one the most progressive young artists in the music industry. Powerful and dexterous in the booth, the Bada$$ has established his place in hip-hop. 

On Friday (March 2), the young lyricist launched the introductory episode to his 47 Minutes podcast with longtime mentee/co-host Nastee and special guests Styles P and Vince Staples. The unfiltered conversation was an intense, yet entertaining look into the legacy hip-hop, its marginalization and, which stretched past the title.

It began with a shameless plug Styles P well known juice bars all over New York leading into the current state hip-hop and the difference between rap and hip-hop.

It’s no secret the relevant style hip-hop has changed ever so ten. From rhyme structure and lyrics to its generational sound, hip-hop acts as the biggest genre in the world, attempting to take over the Grammys, earlier this year. Kendrick Lamar’s socially and politically charged album DAMN. won Best Rap Album but was snubbed for Best Album.

The All-Amerikkkan Bada$$ claimed there’s an imbalance within hip-hip and need to establish subgenres within. “What’s being pushed and publicized (musically) is not that good shit,” he said. “Nothing that’s out is helping the kids. Hip-hop was started to spread messages, decoding messages throughout the community, to spread knowledge and that’s why I say it’s an imbalance.” He suggested trap, rap, conscious rap and any other form rap fall under hip-hops umbrella.  

As a pioneer in the hip-hop industry, Styles P looked up to a generation rap legends like Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, and KRS One, understanding the concept telling stories that a whole town, city, or nation that resonated with others.

“The difference between hip hop and rap is its a young mans sport; it goes from a hobby to a job to a career,” he said. “Hip-hop is something you walk, you eat, you shit, you breathe; its a culture, its a religion, its a way thinking. Hip-hop was a way self knowledge and reassurance for us.”

Vince Staples came out with a strong, declarative tone, “You know how I feel about that shit, I don’t care. What’s the difference?” Apparently, hip-hop as a culture doesn’t exist where he’s from. “It ain’t no culture in L.A. except gang culture and I don’t recall seeing no cyphers or rap battles when I was in school.” This coming from a man who til this day has never heard a Nas or JAY-Z album, which almost made Styles have a heart attack.

The four men later discussed the marginalization hip-hop, religion, the lack awards directly reflective hip-hop and more. 

47 Minutes is available exclusively on Tidal.